A Messianic Jew Explains the Holy Trinity

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Dr. Michael L. Brown a messianic jew and founder of ICN Ministries explained the Trinity. Watch the other video's of Dr. Brown on http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=icn%2Bministries Watch also the serie "Countering the Counter-Missionaries" by Dr. Michael L. Brown: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=icn%2Bministries&num=10&so=0&start=10

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Uploaded: June 7, 2007 at 10:46 am
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PK7531 (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 11:14:36 PM)
Christianity is not anti-Torah. I think you misunderstand the message of the NT. Jesus said that he did not come to change or abolish the Law. Paul's message is about not having to force gentiles the Law in its entirety in order for them to accept Christ- since Christ's message is for all not just for Israelites. He was not anti-Law, just the opposite he was himself obedient of the Law.
PK7531 (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 10:21:02 PM)
Pls refresh our memory about the covenanat of Noah. And again I ask you- if a gentile is to follow strictly Torah, would that make him a descendant of Israel and part of the covenant? Hm?
PK7531 (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 10:18:38 PM)
How are Yeshua and Jesus opposite in concept. If all Christendom is misguided and on a path to damnation, pls enlighten and tell everybody how to win God's blessing? And then compare that to the teaching of Jesus. If a gentile is to follow Torah to the point, would that make him a descendant of Israel? And let's stick to the topic- that's Jesus or Yeshua if you prefer.
nilhav (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 09:41:47 PM)
2b)God did not make a new covenant with all mankind through Yeshua. For the new covenant you claim is for the house of Israel and the house of Judah (Jeremiah 31:30). If you want to claim this covenant and the titles of these 2 houses the follow the Torah. But if not then remain in your place and keep the covenant of Noah. But don't claim our portion and inheritance.
nilhav (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 09:36:59 PM)
1b)PK7531, but Christianity fails when it makes the Church Israel's replacement, and thinks it will claim Israel's inheritance, without following the laws to claim that inheritance. How can you claim the covenant of Avraham but denounce circumcision? Please! The whole Torah is important. HaShem never divides the Torah up into moral laws, and ceremonial laws, as Christians try to. Christianity also fails by teaching that Jesus abolishes the Torah, therefore Christianity is anti-Torah (cont2b)
nilhav (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 09:31:55 PM)
1a)PK7531, I don't know if you understand the Hebrew originals for me to be using them. But I say Yeshua and Jesus are opposites in concept. Christians don't follow Torah. Some try to follow certain aspects of Torah like 7th Day Adventists. Christians generally don't. You are mistaken, I or Judaism does not seek to make gentiles Jews. God has the covenant of Noah for gentiles. The Netzarim were on the right path with the council in Acts 15. The whole world does not have to become Israelites.
PK7531 (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 12:00:39 PM)
But God also made a new covenant with all mankind through Yeshua and his apostles. 1) the whole world does not have to turn into Israelites (descendants of Jacob) to be saved 2) the moral law- the law of the spirit is more important than the law of the physical body.
PK7531 (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 11:56:35 AM)
nilhav, you use the words Judaism and Jews- words that the English language has adopted, instead of the original Yehudim, but yet say that Jesus is somehow different than Yeshua. If all the Christians follow Torah (and many do btw with circumsision and everything else) will you consider them as Israelites? No, of course not. This is not God's plan to turn all gentile peoples into Israelites. That's why Paul is so often misinterpreted and misunderstood. God made a covenant with Israel.
susser (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 08:56:00 AM)
Dear misguided little fool. U should take a course in logic 101. Your illogical assumptions are as bad as the proof u bring. Jesus didn't sin? Gee, asking god (behind curtain #1 or #2??) to "let this cup pass" is a real biggie! Not to believe in God that everything is from Him & begging Him not to bring salvation to mankind? Does God have doubt in Him?? No sin? That's the biggest sin in the world, a lack of belief in the control of God in our everyday affairs! There are other sins as well.
susser (Tuesday 18th of November 2008 08:50:48 AM)
Your father also did not jesus either, nor his father before him nor did any of the prophets, and come to think about it NEITHER DID JESUS! This entire christianity business was formulated and doctrinated in the 4th century by non jewish pagans who hated the Jewish people. If this is such a central doctrine to christianity, why in God's Name didn't the Prophets tell it to us plain & simple?! On the contrary, in a pagan world which believed in the same thing it would've only help make converts!