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KILLAMANJARO3 (Monday 17th of November 2008 05:07:15 PM)

buchanan said republicans act with their guts, it shows, they havent acted with their brains in yrs. bush can give 10 mill month for a war that is making him and his cronies rich but screw our own people and children who need health care. our people have been discarded the past 8 years. i voted obama and feel badly for the shit mess bush/bush admin and cronies have left for him. FUCK U BUSH. bush/rove/cheney and rumsfeld should be paying the american people back for life and in prison for life.

ripdoggie (Monday 17th of November 2008 12:52:09 PM)

hehe i was thinking the same thing!

gobikat (Sunday 16th of November 2008 04:10:18 PM)

oephyx, I just don't see how insurance can be applied reasonably to low cost primary health care. There is a fixed administrative cost that comes with every insurance claim, which only becomes comparatively small when a course of treatment is expensive. Conversely, when the cost of a medical treatment is low, this administrative cost is high. SCHIP tries to do too much for a segment of the population (in this instance, children) for too great a cost.

elderfan (Sunday 16th of November 2008 02:11:50 PM)

all you people who put up these videos where you say maddow smacks down this guy or schools this man you are delusional if she is your new big hero you are lost she is so angry that she makes Ann Coulter look relaxed & laid back

elderfan (Sunday 16th of November 2008 02:04:54 PM)

who's paying for the 8 million kids right now rachel? the taxpayers it's called welfare what a dumb ass

captainmarmalade (Saturday 15th of November 2008 09:19:31 PM)

why the fuck does pat buchanan yell so much? unnecessary. it's like... you have a mic on. just talk.

eternalwanker (Saturday 15th of November 2008 08:13:47 PM)

She only schooled him if whining over him counts as schooling. She is making extremely impractical arguments.

gobikat (Saturday 15th of November 2008 02:23:02 PM)

Like the right to life, we believe rights to be inherent to a person whether you spend for it or not. Is universal healthcare such a right? Beyond word-splitting, however, my deepest concern for programs such as these is that I prefer charity to be a personal choice, not something that is imposed on me by federal government, no matter how well-meaning. Communities and neighborhoods should fund and run these programs, not big government.

oephyx (Sunday 16th of November 2008 12:43:16 PM)

And I prefer it not to be charity, simply because there are many bad reasons not to give it to a person. And it is often tied to religion. I wouldn't mind rich communities going around and asking the poor ones who wants healthcare, but only if it allows everyone access, which it doesn't (at least presently)

oephyx (Sunday 16th of November 2008 12:55:17 PM)

People shouldn't be punished additionally for being sick (which is what the present system does). The point of health insurance is for risks to be mutualised. The best way to do it indiscriminately is for government involvement. The problem with treating healthcare as a right is that it opens the door to excess. It can't be made totally free, just affordable.