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genmaximus110 (Monday 9th of June 2008 03:44:20 PM)

I don't care if it's difficult to play. It is still awful sounding.

dondonoboe1 (Saturday 16th of August 2008 09:04:10 PM)

you are an ignorant of modern music, genmaximus....

genmaximus110 (Sunday 17th of August 2008 05:31:28 PM)

No, I happen to like the great composers of the past. Most of the current composers have little talent. You cannot compare someone like Lutoslawski to leagues of the greats like Wagner and Brahms. Sure, the oboe is a wonderful instrument and this piece is hard to play, but the music is still not nice to listen to. There's nothing pleasing to the sound of it. There's no great melody or harmony. It simply isn't good.

dondonoboe1 (Tuesday 19th of August 2008 05:22:22 AM)

ok... listen to my rendition of zimmermann oboe concerto... its a modern music...

genmaximus110 (Tuesday 19th of August 2008 06:47:29 PM)

I'm not saying all modern music is bad. There's many modern composers who have talent: John Williams, Howard Shore, Hans Zimmer, etc.; Though, it does seem their talent ends with movie scores. John Williams wrote a violin concerto and it was awful.

bene951 (Monday 25th of August 2008 03:09:13 PM)

You cannot say that "most current composers have little talent." You just sound very stupid when you say something that brash... I'll be honest, I have difficulty listening to some modern music. You seem to miss the point... Lutoslawski is not trying to be Wagner or Brahms--that music has already been written! He's just pushing the boundaries and trying to do something new and not just stick to the traditional romantic styles from the late 1800s...

genmaximus110 (Tuesday 26th of August 2008 08:07:18 AM)

No, he shouldn't copy someone else. But, he should compose something that's pleasing to listen to, which this is not and most modern music at the orchestra is. Most modern movie music composers do have talent. It's when you go to Cleveland Orchestra to hear a nice piece of music and they have some other obscure new piece; those are all dreadful.

bene951 (Tuesday 26th of August 2008 03:50:57 PM)

Well, now you are being inconsistent. You say composers shouldn't copy someone else, yet you say the modern movie music composers are the talented ones. I couldn't help take notice that you mentioned John Williams who, by the way, all but totally copied Wagner, Holst, Dvorak, etc. in his movie scores. The score to Star Wars, as great as it is, is a complete copy and paste job. Understand that because you don't find something pleasant, it does not mean it is bad or the composer is untalented...

genmaximus110 (Thursday 28th of August 2008 02:35:45 PM)

Modern composers may borrow some, but it's not a total copy. I'd still rather have a composer compose in the style of another than to write something that sounds horrible. Hoffmeister wrote a great viola concerto. His style reminds me of Mozart, but that concerto, especially since viola pieces are rare, is not without merit. And, yes, if it's unpleasant to listen to then it IS bad. Art is to be enjoyed. If it makes you squirm in your seat, then it's not a very pleasurable experience.

annoniemer (Sunday 4th of May 2008 04:38:27 PM)

heinz holliger is one of, or simply the best oboe player in the world at the moment. the 'horrible' things you hear here are technically not quite that simple to achieve on an oboe: he's playing more thatn 1 note at the same time...