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ratiocinativeness (Monday 6th of October 2008 09:54:59 PM)

Their harmonics weren't identical, but they BOTH used whole tone passages, heavy blues scales, bebop scales, and mixolydian scales simlarly. Their passing root/harmonic motions over existing changes didn't differ much. I heard them both add in sharp (or augmented) 5 (and 4) tones over V7 chords to transition to the next chord. There was a similar emphasis on 3rds and 7s. If this was michael brecker or dave liebman verse one of these guys, it would be a different story with the harmonics.

nsilveira1216 (Sunday 5th of October 2008 10:09:22 PM)

there harmonics were totally different, so i'm not sure what you're talking about. plus, louder and cruder doesnt mean its more intense

ratiocinativeness (Sunday 5th of October 2008 07:53:38 PM)

While Carters technique is more aggressive and tone is abrasive, Redmans is tone softer and licks are smoother and less intense- they both used similar bitonal/multitonal harmonics when they'd go into altered chord subs. I'd have to say that I enjoyed Carter a little more in this clip because of his intensity and abrasiveness. I'm def not saying redman is totally unenjoyable either (I have 5 of his albums)

nsilveira1216 (Sunday 5th of October 2008 06:37:07 PM)

thats a stupid thing to say. redmans tone is better, but his technique is better than carters. he takes carters technique and makes them into techniqual ideas. why dont you watch it again

1goodsalesman71 (Saturday 4th of October 2008 06:58:42 PM)

Amazing

fishytank1land (Saturday 4th of October 2008 11:48:11 AM)

i think redmans tone is better and carters technique is way off the charts.

riccitone (Tuesday 30th of September 2008 11:49:06 AM)

Redman is certainly capable of playing the technical tricks, smoke and mirrors being spewed by Carter at any point he wishes. The important thing here is to understand the purity of melodic phrasing, story telling, as well as the control of the instrument due to developing ideas of purpose and direction...the kind of story telling that is exhibited here by Redman, and definitely not by Carter. What Redman plays is far more meaningful. He's actually maintaining a conversation with the band....

rozebabyolifantje (Tuesday 30th of September 2008 09:24:41 AM)

True,, but somehow it does remain music. Which is nog always the case in highly-technical jazz.

Sopransaxman23 (Monday 29th of September 2008 08:33:46 PM)

Redman Wins.. he started out slow but when Redman repeats carters lick that's when the shift started and redman Walked him

jskull18 (Monday 29th of September 2008 04:40:24 PM)

damn